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Dead Woman, Living Politics: Adriana Smith’s Diabolical Fate

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Dr. Nsenga Burton delves into the harrowing story of Adriana Smith, a brain-dead pregnant woman in Georgia, whose family was forced to keep her on life support due to the state's Heartbeat Bill. This episode highlights the broader implications of such anti-reproductive rights legislation, the emotional trauma inflicted on families, and the necessity for women to have autonomy over their bodies. Dr. Burton also discusses the misleading media portrayal of the case and the financial burden on Smith's family. The episode serves as a call to understand the laws and the impact of voting on reproductive rights.

▶︎ In This Episode

00:00: Introduction to Need to Know with Dr. Nsenga Burton

00:18: The Heartbeat Bill and Adriana Smith's Story

02:34: Media Misrepresentation and Maternal Mortality

05:10: Legal and Financial Ramifications

08:07: The Importance of Voting and Reproductive Rights

09:01 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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A Black Executive Perspective Now presents need to know

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with the award-winning hyphenated Dr.

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Nsenga Burton.

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Dr.

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Burton, what do we need to know?

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Nsenga Burton: Good afternoon and

welcome to Need To Know with Dr.

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Nsenga Burton.

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I am she.

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And today we're gonna be talking

about a topic that is, um.

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Yeah, very, very, uh, difficult topic to

talk about, I think for a lot of people.

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Um, but you may have been, uh,

you may have been following

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the story of Adriana Smith.

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Um, a young mother, uh, and nurse,

uh, in Atlanta, Georgia, who

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unfortunately became brain dead.

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And when, uh, she became brain

dead, it was found to have

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been nine weeks pregnant.

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And because of the.

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Heartbeat Bill.

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Uh, basically a law in Georgia that says,

uh, fetuses have the rights of humans.

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She was forcibly kept alive versus the

wishes of her family, um, to let her go be

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with God, um, in order to have the baby.

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So she is a, uh, mother.

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Of another child with her husband,

partner, she has an entire family

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and she, her wishes were not to

be kept alive by artificial means.

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So I'm bringing you this because

there is a lot of discussion about

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reproductive rights in this country.

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There are a lot of anti reproductive

rights bills and the challenge with them

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is whether where you fall on the, you

know, whether you're for pro, whatever.

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Uh, people have reproductive rights,

is that family business is family

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business and decisions need to be made

for you and yours by you and yours,

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and so you can't consider all of the

possibilities that could happen because

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I just have to believe that even people

who are pro-life would understand what

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her mother calls the terror quote.

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And trauma quote of having to revisit the

death of your child every single day until

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someone else says, okay, this fetus has

grown enough where we can take this fetus.

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So they, uh, took the fetus.

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'cause they keep saying, and

here's the other thing about,

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uh, media that pisses me off.

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They keep saying she

gave birth to this child.

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She did not give birth

to this child, the baby.

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If you wanna call it a baby, the

fetus grew and became a baby,

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um, basically in a dead body.

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So anyone who's been a parent, anyone

who's been pregnant, imagine how

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important the environment is for a child.

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I.

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At this precarious time.

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Now, we've talked extensively about

maternal mortality rates, how they're

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negatively impacting all women, but

black women, specifically state of

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Georgia, has stopped counting them.

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At one point, they were the nation's

leader in maternal mortality

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as it relates to black women.

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They no longer count maternal mortalities.

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Um, and just like with COVID,

when they stopped counting

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the number of dead people.

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That is a way to skew numbers so

that you do not look like you are

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participating in a system or a process

that is having negative consequences

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on a certain population of people.

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Having said that, she did

not give birth to this baby.

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The baby was taken from her via Cesarean

section C-section, and media has been.

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Poorly, poorly, poorly communicating

to people that she gave birth.

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Now, there are different

ways of giving birth.

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There are different ways of bringing

babies into the world, but they should

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not conflate the two when in fact

someone is brain dead and cannot push.

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They cannot be experiencing

any of the labor, any of that.

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They are not knowledgeable of any of it.

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So that is something different.

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That is something different and

you do a disservice to people.

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And I think it, it could be in an effort

to continue to promote people voting

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for pro-life, um, legislation that has

negative consequences on women's bodies,

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uh, particularly when women are not

allowed to make their own decisions, their

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families, their spouses, their parents.

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Are not allowed to make

decisions for them.

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Their, their decisions for themselves

are not even being followed, uh,

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when traumatic incidences occur.

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And so now the family's traumatized

and the family's on the hook.

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I also have to say this,

there is a GoFundMe.

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Why?

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Because the family's on the

hook for the cost of keeping

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this woman alive for months.

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This happened in February.

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We are in June, about to be in July.

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How do we know that they do not care

about this woman and this child because

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the family should not be on the hook

because it went against their wishes.

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Right?

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They're following the law, right?

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Not what she wanted, not what her family

wanted, and because they're such wonderful

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people, our attorney general, that would

be George's Attorney General, has said.

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There was no obligation for the

hospital to follow the law in that case.

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Could have said that in February.

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Comes out with it in June.

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What does that mean?

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Or how am I experiencing that?

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This case has been a, a, a, a hailstorm

to make to, to, uh, to be polite about it.

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Um, and that means now because he.

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Who's up for reelection is now

under siege because of what has

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happened to this woman, or they

allowed to happen to this woman.

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Um, he used to distance themself

from this decision that was made.

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It also means that by distancing

themselves from this decision

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that is made, they can continue to

say they are not responsible for

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the financial, uh, ramifications.

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So I'm gonna wrap this up.

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The boy was born,

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taken from the mom.

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And he's one pound and he's in

the NICU and they say he's okay.

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So we don't know what that means.

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You know, we've all, uh, I won't say

we all, but many people who've had

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children have been around children.

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You have nieces and nephews or

what have you, who've been in

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those precarious situations, um,

knows that anything had happened.

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He grew up and be a, a, have a

full life or he'd be damaged.

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There's lots of things that can happen.

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Um, so we don't even know what

the cost would be, but what I

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do find interesting is that.

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People will spend millions of dollars

on a GoFundMe, contribute millions of

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dollars to a police officer who has

killed an unarmed boy like Trayvon

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Martin, a life Jordan, a life.

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We keep going, um, but we can't get

over a million dollars for Adriana Smith

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at life.

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And the life that was brought forth

from her by being cut out of her

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by people who followed the law

instead of what is she wanted and

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what her family wanted for her body.

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And by the way, her 3-year-old thought

his mom was asleep all that time,

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then burying her on Friday.

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So what I need you to know is

that elections have consequences.

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You can keep talking about all this.

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Oh, this is what we gotta do.

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You know, I believe in this and

that you cannot control everything.

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You don't know what is in store for you.

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We don't even know if we're

gonna be here tomorrow, truly,

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especially with 47 in office.

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So I just encourage you to know the

law, to understand voting, and to

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understand what the ramifications.

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Are for those votes, and if you

truly believe as you say that God

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is all knowing, then how do you

know that God did not intend for

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her to come to him on February 25th?

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So sorry, I couldn't be happy today.

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I'm not.

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Um, I'll do better than the next one.

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I probably will.

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Um, but I just think you need to know

that women should have rights to their

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bodies, and there's a reason why we say

we need to have rights to our bodies.

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This is a great example of why tune

in next week to an A Black Executive

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Perspective podcast with Tony and Chris.

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And to need to know with Dr.

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Nsenga Burton.

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I will see you then.

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Be happy, be focused.

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Keep your head on the swivel and be safe.

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Bye.

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